Ship and temporal distortion in Sainte-Claire, fall 1989-90
Investigation par M.G. and Yann Vadnais
Finally, we publish our video d & rsquo; investigation of the case of Santa Chiara presenting the testimonies partly contradictory witness. They bring us the facts d & rsquo; an enigmatic event as if it & rsquo; yesterday, although this date & rsquo; there 25 years. What is interesting in many ways, which we will detail later. For the moment, especially we present their testimonies, as well as background documentation to understand the context and circumstances of the & rsquo; event.
1) St. Clair, 1989-1990, end d & rsquo; afternoon and evening :
We had recently published another story of these witnesses, a couple living in this municipality of the Chaudière-Appalaches region since their youth. They told their encounter with a luminous ball of orange & rsquo; roughly the same period and especially the same geographic area (to 3 km) the cases presented aujourd & rsquo; hui :
Testimony of the luminous ball, October 1989.
2) St. Clair, fall 1989, to 15 h 00 :
New Video d & rsquo; investigation !
Transcript of evidence by M. G. and Yann Vadnais :
T1 = man Witness
T2 = female Witness
E1 = Yann Vadnais
E2 = M.G.
T1 It was still in the hunt for the Houbara, to 'up ass "called. We had been walking around the top ranks. Then there we came back here, then advancing, Chantale looks of the driver's side and then said: «Hey! there is a boat that is bustards!». Me I see, I can not see the sailboat bustard. She says: "Yes, then it is big!». I had told him: "It goes to or?" She says: "He goes to the river". Ok! It's that we continue to move forward, then when you get on 277, turn left towards St. Clair, towards the power station, then turning it forward. As, all of a sudden, just above the way we see the UFO that passes very slowly over the road while we advance. He is going to stand like that on top of the power plant, then he stops there. We, we advance, the vehicle is stopped, and then we look at the. We clearly see that the front of the UFO, il y a 2 beings who are there: a forward and then the other is right behind. We see very well. Beside me I have telescopes and "Kodak" [camera], but I do not take them. Then suddenly, inside my head is like sounds, but not vote, it tells me : "Do not stay here, va t’en. Va t’en. There remains, va t’en !». Then I look here, then I leave the vehicle, I take off, then when I did about a hundred or two hundred feet, it is as if, I do not know, je me réveillais. I do [m & rsquo; exclaims] : "Ah! tabarnouche!, how come I lifted off me?». I had the Kodak, spotting scopes beside me! But the UFO here, while I décollais, I saw him do that, and then move from behind the building [Equipment] " Freedom ", towards the river, and then he goes there for one advances. It was very well seen.
The object, I'll draw you… When seen through the way we thought : "Let's see what is impossible, It can not steal it, it's impossible!».
E2 Ok, and why you say it: "It can not steal that story»?
T1 It's not a helicopter: no propeller, it's nothing, there is no sound, it's nothing…
E2 Ok: there was no sound?
Q2 No sound, no displacement & rsquo; air : we could not see anything move.
It was moving slowly E2, slowly?
T2 Yes.
E Is it sounded metallic air or not really metal?
T1 It looked like a rusted mass. It looked like it was colored "rust". We would have said, not metal, but it was color "rust". It was solid, it was not the invisible you know. This was not a "light ship".
E2 Ok, rust color, like rusty metal. But a rusty metal there are shades…
T2 Orange-brown…
T1 It looked like it. [It shows the drawing.]
E2 It looked a little bit about it?
T2 Me, I could not tell the color.
E2 Not? You do not notice the color? But is what it felt like rust, in the sense that rust is not a solid color?
Yeah T1. It was not united. You could see that it was like rust-orange, with dark through. You look at it — I still see here. If we could resume our memory and then put on a film, it would be easy. I see him there: it is impossible that it flies.
E2 Does it sounded big air like object?
T2 Not really.
T1 This cabin-out [near us] she has 14 feet (4,2m)… it was longer than that for example. I will tell you : put the garage complete with the little section over there [4,2 m + 3,3 m = 7,5 m], in length. And then we saw them very well 2 beings forward. The first forward, according to me, it was he who was driving because the other back, it, He was right behind and then there is nothing happening.
E2 Ok, we'll talk a little bit of 2 beings. Is the 2 beings seemed to be sitting, standing?
T1 Standing. Me what I saw, they were standing.
E2 Does it seemed like beings of our size or smaller than us?
T1 very good question. As, they were in a vessel height…
Yeah E2, It is more difficult…
T1 very good question.
T2 It [l & rsquo; event] has made it there faster…
T1 I can not answer that question.
E2 Do they seemed dressed?
T1 Yes, they seemed dressed, and then the shape of the skull n & rsquo; was not a human form 100%. You could see that it was not humans who were there.
You E1 Mrs. : Can you confirm this?
T2 Yes. But the colors, I could not tell you. Say they were standing I could not confirm it to you either: it happened too fast. And then me, my memory, where I saw is not the same place as him. I saw him at the end of the row 4, at the intersection of the 277. At this location, there is a gray and red house, then I saw him over there.
E1 Is it because you did not see at the same time, or at the same time you have not seen the same place?
T2 That is what we are told…
T1 On s’en parlait, then how we saw, we interpret the fact that "it, it's here [near the house with the red roof] she saw, then me and this is [above the power plant] I've seen ". When we have seen over the central, after that, he left, then he moved behind the building to go to the red house where she, she saw, ok? Are we stayed there longer than we think we stayed there, and finally we have really seen as above the red house, then after that we went? I can not answer you on that question. But I, I can tell you one thing: is that if I took my Kodak with telescopes, you would have a photo Reptilians. The shape of the skull, face as I saw at the distance they were: it was reptilian. Then it was the same reptilian, the same type of reptile you see drawn in [the book] Contact 158 [François C. Bourbeau]. You see that the face shape… You liabilities, it is not smooth as a human, you see it's not humans that are there. Face shape, facial texture, it's not the same.
E2 You were close enough to detail it?
Oh T1! If I had spotting scopes and Kodak, you'll see the perfectly.
E2 But to the naked eye you were close enough…
T2 Yes.
T1 Oh yes we were glued [very close to the & rsquo; UFO].
T2 Because I was at the intersection [when I l & rsquo; saw]…
T1 Where there is the power plant, tell yourself that was parked on the side of the street, the side of the central, So it was about 50 feet away other. So we were quite close. Us here, they were about to 50 to 60 feet (15-18m) Us.
Very E1, very close.
T1 Yes, that's why I tell you…
E2 When the object moved, do you have in profile, have you seen rotate ?
T1 [Yes], rotate.
Then E2, if you saw rotate, what it looked at that time? From behind, or three quarters?
T1 When he crossed the street, it was like that side. Then when it arrived above the central, he shot like that. Therefore, we have always seen the same side. Then when he went back, he was always aside, and then left down. That's why I say that day, he spent so many cars while we were there, we definitely n & rsquo; is not alone in seeing. I can not believe that is the only. He crossed the road, Tabarouette ! then it was approximately 20, 25 feet (6-7m) above [poles] when it crossed [the road] is. He came close to Central when it passed [above d & rsquo; it]: he really was not up. Then when he passed behind the [shop] John Deer, s & rsquo; lya of employees working outside that day… it passed Drette [barely] above them other!
T2 It was the weekend; I do not think there was employee.
T1 It was the weekend? Ok, that's why… because he has really fallen [d & rsquo; altitude at this time]. He really went down at ground level, then you could see he wore. It, she said she saw above the house [Roof] red, then the red house is the other side of the store.
T2 I entire section you say "on", [for example] when he crossed the path, you can say "I". Me is more vis-à-vis the house with the red roof [I saw the & rsquo; UFO].
Then this is T1, a couple of years after, we realized… That's a painting 1350, in Russia. Then if we look at every corner: vessels; one chasing the other. Makes one says it looked like it is, You liabilities. Not really, with a small difference, but you see front that folds forward by, then the front here like this.
Especially for that E1 ?
Yeah T1.
T2 It's not the same shape as the other [sketches] he drawn.
Yeah T1, right.
E2 So they appeared dressed you. Do they wore dark clothing or pale? Is it too much to ask for your memory?
T2 I think it was dark.
So here E2 [the open section of the vessel], I imagine that if you could see, it is because it was transparent?
T1 Yes.
E2 But is what you've seen something that looked like a glass?
T1 Non.
E2 It was like he was in the open air?
T1 Yeah. It's like s & rsquo; n & rsquo it; there was nothing, it was as if they were in the open air.
E2 It was like the air going through this section then? N & rsquo; was there no wall behind?
Yeah T1, not. It was really open like that.
E2 Open, and then there were clouds behind, you would have seen behind the clouds?
T1 It was completely open. Well we both saw [humanoids] who were there; me anyway I saw.
T2 There was perhaps a dome, but n & rsquo; there was no glass reflections, nothing.
T1 Non, it n & rsquo; there was no glass reflections. We were close, we were really close.
Then E2 from the fact that they were two, standing; one that was before you presume to be the driver… but is it that you saw handle something?
T1 Non. I suppose [that & rsquo; he was the driver] because had it appeared to be closer to something that was ahead of him, while the other behind, I saw it n & rsquo; there was nothing before him. You liabilities, he was just standing there.
E2 Ok. So that of forward, it seems that he may be as part of "furniture" in front of him?
Perhaps T1, because he [one from behind], I remember very well that he turned his head toward us. It, I remember very well, I can see him.
E2 Ok. And when you say "reptilian", do you think you could do us a small sketch?
Dear Ms. E1 : I will ask you to draw the & rsquo; largest UFO.
T2 The face [humanoids], I didn & rsquo; not remember.
I mean E1, draw the ship : take a whole page. And for you, René, answering the question of Marc, you could maybe, this section below, make wholesale on a page. That way we will be able to see humanoids; you will be able to make small furniture.
Meanwhile E2, maybe (I do not want to meet you either), maybe he can not detail more than that…
T1 Non. What I am showing you here, that's what I saw. The only thing I can add is that you I see him here like this, which faces us, and then others looking at us. Can you see through his skin, you see by the shape of the face that this is not a human. C'pas a human. That is why, after that the voices keep saying "Go thee, still not there, va t’en, still not there, advance!», I advanced then after it's like, I'm back to me when we will say, there I watched: hey! I have my Kodak here, I have my telescopes… Imagine yourself with telescopes! I would have seen as if they were two feet in front of me: They were (right) to 60 feet (18m).
E2 Do they seem to wear a helmet or any cap or was bareheaded?
T1 Non, I can not tell you, that.
E2 Ok. It might look like a bit what their skin, so they do not look like a human finally?
Try drawing E1 close to the characters: as the shape of the head; major arms, small arms; elements of costume…
E2 I understand that it has made you think a little about the image of the tapestry…
T1 It is several years after… You see they have painted with a point like that and then another peak. We understand that on painting, the tips and behind it is to say he advances. That's how I interpret.
It was powered T2.
T1 Yes, right.
E2 C’est possible.
E1 What time was it when it happened?
T1 I think it is 3 hours of the afternoon [15 h 00].
T2 This was not the morning, then this was not the evening.
E1 In 1989-90.
T1 It is very hard to draw…
E1 With very narrow shoulders?
T1 Non, this is because the body is viewed from the side. You see that the back was straight. I remember that the back was straight, it struck me that he had to see the back straight as well. Humans all have a curve, something; He does not.
E1 This is an important detail. You madame, have you…
T2 … I have no more details than that myself. He still remembers more than me about that.
You've seen the E1 2 humanoids?
T2 Yes. But I can not say if… The color, skin, all of this, the shape… I feel like I've seen him less time than.
(…)
T1 …Skin, it was as if there were cavities in the skin. (return on details of humanoids)
T2 As if it were hammered.
T1 Yes, as hollow, you see that it was full of hollows in the skin. It was not a smooth skin. I can not tell you what was on top here. I'm trying. But what I remember is the face. It really was…vis-à-vis here [their faces] it was like all cellared.
T2 What I remember is that he had very dark skin.
T1 Yes, yes.
T2 From what I remember.
T1 Yes, yes, you are right.
T2 He had dark skin, it was not a white skin.
Q1 Can not you draw the hand. What I remember is that of the back is a little larger than that of Forth. Why? do that ahead of sitting or standing is, I do not know it. That of back, when he looked at us, the only thing I saw is that it did not have the arm along the body. His arms folded like this. But I can not describe your hands: I do not see them. Then whoever is in front, he had more arms like this. That's why sometimes I said that in my opinion he flew you.
That of E1 forward, Is he the longer arm or had small arms?
T1 Bonne question. I can not tell you. I really focussé [porter attention] on the head. From what I remember, my mental focus is on early object, then after that I focussé on beings. Because at the beginning, I focussais nothing on the object, I saw no beings. Then there I was watching the object move. Then when it stabilized, that's when I saw that there were two people in front. I did [exclaimed myself]: "Han!», then there I focused more on the beings on the object. But it was the face: I tried to see the face. Therefore the rest of the body, consciously, I can not [well describe the]…
T2 On essayait, I tried and tried te: we tried [the witness mark here, once again, the difference between his testimony and that of her husband]… but it is so fast. On l’a pas «checké» [observer] one hour of time… It's the times we missed our 'shot' [occasion] to have proof [photographic d & rsquo; a UFO]!
T1 Yes, right. I speak almost reluctantly to have [miss the & rsquo; the opportunity to & rsquo; photo UFO]… But you can not help but listen to the voices. I just had to do that, I had my Kodak: "Click!». I had my telescopes. I'd seen everything perfectly. But it kept telling me: «Eeste fit là, advance, advance, va t’en, va t’en !». It was not the voice: that was why it was telling me. That is why I feeling, on va dire.
Then T2 me, I have not made any comments : « Hey! stop here, hey! check ça là, hey! Do not move; take a picture!» [uncertain word 65:6].
She did not speak T1. Then it's further…
T2 We did not talk. There was a pause in the car.
T1 …we said : "Why were advanced"?
T2 There was a silence in the car, then after that we wished [not taking pictures]…
E1 How long have you been circulating before returning to yourself? Quelle distance, then how long ?
T1 Ah! not long. I would say almost 100, 150 feet (30-45m) maximum.
T2 Yes, then tacked…
T1 We can now confirm that it has re-arrested, because it was not far off.
T2 is then tacked, then we went to see, but we did not review.
T1 Non. But this time there, being stronger than those voices then returning, I would have had a photo, then I would have seen with telescopes perfectly; but the voices were stronger…
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